Comments on: A Theory on the Acceptance of Sabermetrics http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/2010/03/06/a-theory-on-the-acceptance-of-sabermetrics/ Covering America's Favorite Pastime Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:04:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Dpez71 http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/2010/03/06/a-theory-on-the-acceptance-of-sabermetrics/comment-page-1/#comment-3947 Dpez71 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 04:46:26 +0000 http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/?p=12992#comment-3947 The emotional response comes from statements like these: Law wrote that Happ's season was "a raging fluke driven by an unsustainable performance with men in scoring position that was about luck, not skill." Statements like that are a far cry from saying there is good reason to expect JA Happ's stats will not be as good this year as they were last year. It should also be noted I think instead of saying things like "fluke" and "luck",you should say that Happ's stats were an outlier. That way, the writer doesn't seem to be taking a defensive approach to the fact that a player defied their stats, he simply states that history suggests it will not happen again.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3947','Dpez71'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3947','Dpez71','The emotional response comes from statements like these: Law wrote that Happ\'s season was \"a raging fluke driven by an unsustainable performance with men in scoring position that was about luck, not skill.\" \r\n\r\nStatements like that are a far cry from saying there is good reason to expect JA Happ\'s stats will not be as good this year as they were last year. It should also be noted I think instead of saying things like \"fluke\" and \"luck\",you should say that Happ\'s stats were an outlier. That way, the writer doesn\'t seem to be taking a defensive approach to the fact that a player defied their stats, he simply states that history suggests it will not happen again.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The emotional response comes from statements like these: Law wrote that Happ’s season was “a raging fluke driven by an unsustainable performance with men in scoring position that was about luck, not skill.”

Statements like that are a far cry from saying there is good reason to expect JA Happ’s stats will not be as good this year as they were last year. It should also be noted I think instead of saying things like “fluke” and “luck”,you should say that Happ’s stats were an outlier. That way, the writer doesn’t seem to be taking a defensive approach to the fact that a player defied their stats, he simply states that history suggests it will not happen again.

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]]> By: Rob McQuown http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/2010/03/06/a-theory-on-the-acceptance-of-sabermetrics/comment-page-1/#comment-3942 Rob McQuown Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:33:06 +0000 http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/?p=12992#comment-3942 Interesting topic. I disagree that it's all about ego on the part of "traditional baseball people". My sense is, instead, that the "science" of Sabermetrics is still very much in its infancy. I mean, I was working on projects back in '87 at school wherein we did video analysis of roughly the same complexity that "Field F/X" will have, and "Field F/X" is now debuting... in 2010, more than 2 decades later. My gut reaction is that people who think that the tools of other sciences are being applied in a fully appropriate manner to the field (bad pun intended) of baseball are just folks who have a hammer and see every problem as a nail. One of the more egregious examples is MGL's laughable claim that he could add 7 wins just by applying some ridiculous principles to the management of a team, and shows a lack of appreciation for the subtleties of baseball. Fortunately, Sabermetrics is growing. 10 years ago, defense was drastically underappreciated by the Sabermetric community, despite decades of "old school" baseball people harping on it as being a key to winning. Now, it's "trendy" and "new". Anyway, it's a growing field of study, IMO.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3942','Rob McQuown'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3942','Rob McQuown','Interesting topic. I disagree that it\'s all about ego on the part of \"traditional baseball people\". My sense is, instead, that the \"science\" of Sabermetrics is still very much in its infancy. I mean, I was working on projects back in \'87 at school wherein we did video analysis of roughly the same complexity that \"Field F\/X\" will have, and \"Field F\/X\" is now debuting... in 2010, more than 2 decades later. \r\n\r\nMy gut reaction is that people who think that the tools of other sciences are being applied in a fully appropriate manner to the field (bad pun intended) of baseball are just folks who have a hammer and see every problem as a nail. One of the more egregious examples is MGL\'s laughable claim that he could add 7 wins just by applying some ridiculous principles to the management of a team, and shows a lack of appreciation for the subtleties of baseball. \r\n\r\nFortunately, Sabermetrics is growing. 10 years ago, defense was drastically underappreciated by the Sabermetric community, despite decades of \"old school\" baseball people harping on it as being a key to winning. Now, it\'s \"trendy\" and \"new\". Anyway, it\'s a growing field of study, IMO.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Interesting topic. I disagree that it’s all about ego on the part of “traditional baseball people”. My sense is, instead, that the “science” of Sabermetrics is still very much in its infancy. I mean, I was working on projects back in ‘87 at school wherein we did video analysis of roughly the same complexity that “Field F/X” will have, and “Field F/X” is now debuting… in 2010, more than 2 decades later.

My gut reaction is that people who think that the tools of other sciences are being applied in a fully appropriate manner to the field (bad pun intended) of baseball are just folks who have a hammer and see every problem as a nail. One of the more egregious examples is MGL’s laughable claim that he could add 7 wins just by applying some ridiculous principles to the management of a team, and shows a lack of appreciation for the subtleties of baseball.

Fortunately, Sabermetrics is growing. 10 years ago, defense was drastically underappreciated by the Sabermetric community, despite decades of “old school” baseball people harping on it as being a key to winning. Now, it’s “trendy” and “new”. Anyway, it’s a growing field of study, IMO.

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