Comments on: The NL Cy Young – Counting The Ballots http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/2009/11/19/the-nl-cy-young-counting-the-ballots/ Covering America's Favorite Pastime Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:21:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bill Baer http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/2009/11/19/the-nl-cy-young-counting-the-ballots/comment-page-1/#comment-3862 Bill Baer Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:14:42 +0000 http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/?p=11146#comment-3862 Well, four starts is two-thirds of the starts a pitcher will make in one month. I think that's significant. Carpenter, overall, missed more than a month between April 14 and May 20. Lincecum allowed slightly more runs, but when you leverage that out over four extra starts, that's pretty valuable as opposed to the average-ish pitchers that had to pitch the innings Carpenter couldn't. Essentially, in 230 innings, Lincecum > Carpenter + Cardinals' average interim starter (i.e. Mitchell Boggs).<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3862','Bill Baer'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3862','Bill Baer','Well, four starts is two-thirds of the starts a pitcher will make in one month. I think that\'s significant. Carpenter, overall, missed more than a month between April 14 and May 20.\r\n\r\nLincecum allowed slightly more runs, but when you leverage that out over four extra starts, that\'s pretty valuable as opposed to the average-ish pitchers that had to pitch the innings Carpenter couldn\'t.\r\n\r\nEssentially, in 230 innings, Lincecum > Carpenter + Cardinals\' average interim starter (i.e. Mitchell Boggs).'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Well, four starts is two-thirds of the starts a pitcher will make in one month. I think that’s significant. Carpenter, overall, missed more than a month between April 14 and May 20.

Lincecum allowed slightly more runs, but when you leverage that out over four extra starts, that’s pretty valuable as opposed to the average-ish pitchers that had to pitch the innings Carpenter couldn’t.

Essentially, in 230 innings, Lincecum > Carpenter + Cardinals’ average interim starter (i.e. Mitchell Boggs).

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]]> By: Craig Brown http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/2009/11/19/the-nl-cy-young-counting-the-ballots/comment-page-1/#comment-3861 Craig Brown Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:08:40 +0000 http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/?p=11146#comment-3861 I certainly see the point that can be made against Carpenter because of his missed time. But his rate stats (BB/9, K/BB) certainly measure up. He missed one-sixth of the season, which, to me, isn't enough to keep him out of contention. If Carpenter had spent a month in the bullpen, would we be having this discussion? The next "test" for the writers will be the MVP vote and where Zobrist finishes.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3861','Craig Brown'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3861','Craig Brown','I certainly see the point that can be made against Carpenter because of his missed time. But his rate stats (BB\/9, K\/BB) certainly measure up. He missed one-sixth of the season, which, to me, isn\'t enough to keep him out of contention. If Carpenter had spent a month in the bullpen, would we be having this discussion?\r\n\r\nThe next \"test\" for the writers will be the MVP vote and where Zobrist finishes.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I certainly see the point that can be made against Carpenter because of his missed time. But his rate stats (BB/9, K/BB) certainly measure up. He missed one-sixth of the season, which, to me, isn’t enough to keep him out of contention. If Carpenter had spent a month in the bullpen, would we be having this discussion?

The next “test” for the writers will be the MVP vote and where Zobrist finishes.

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]]> By: Bill Baer http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/2009/11/19/the-nl-cy-young-counting-the-ballots/comment-page-1/#comment-3860 Bill Baer Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:29:43 +0000 http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/?p=11146#comment-3860 I went Lincecum, Vazquez, and Wainwright <a href="http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/2009/10/19/bba-al-and-nl-cy-young/" rel="nofollow">on my ballot</a>. I think Carpenter's missed starts/innings do count for something, and he made 4 fewer starts and ~30 fewer innings than Lincecum.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3860','Bill Baer'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3860','Bill Baer','I went Lincecum, Vazquez, and Wainwright <a href=\"http:\/\/www.baseballdailydigest.com\/2009\/10\/19\/bba-al-and-nl-cy-young\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">on my ballot<\/a>. I think Carpenter\'s missed starts\/innings do count for something, and he made 4 fewer starts and ~30 fewer innings than Lincecum.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I went Lincecum, Vazquez, and Wainwright on my ballot. I think Carpenter’s missed starts/innings do count for something, and he made 4 fewer starts and ~30 fewer innings than Lincecum.
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