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		<title>By: Craig Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill - Quality South Park reference.

I&#039;m with you on Felix deserving of consideration of a first place vote.  After him and Greinke, the other three can fight it out for places three through five.  

I would have ordered them:
Greinke
Hernandez
Verlander
Halladay
Sabathia&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;3859&#039;,&#039;Craig Brown&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;3859&#039;,&#039;Craig Brown&#039;,&#039;Bill - Quality South Park reference.\r\n\r\nI\&#039;m with you on Felix deserving of consideration of a first place vote.  After him and Greinke, the other three can fight it out for places three through five.  \r\n\r\nI would have ordered them:\r\nGreinke\r\nHernandez\r\nVerlander\r\nHalladay\r\nSabathia&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211; Quality South Park reference.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you on Felix deserving of consideration of a first place vote.  After him and Greinke, the other three can fight it out for places three through five.  </p>
<p>I would have ordered them:<br />
Greinke<br />
Hernandez<br />
Verlander<br />
Halladay<br />
Sabathia
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3859','Craig Brown'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3859','Craig Brown','Bill - Quality South Park reference.\r\n\r\nI\'m with you on Felix deserving of consideration of a first place vote.  After him and Greinke, the other three can fight it out for places three through five.  \r\n\r\nI would have ordered them:\r\nGreinke\r\nHernandez\r\nVerlander\r\nHalladay\r\nSabathia'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Bill Baer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Baer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-3857&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Craig Brown&lt;/a&gt; - An intervention must be had if Greinke starts playing Guitar Hero. It&#039;s only a short leap before it becomes Heroin Hero!

(Obligatory South Park reference)

On Kornacki&#039;s &quot;stats,&quot; Verlander had a 4.20 ERA in those four starts with 120-plus pitches, so it&#039;s not like he became Bob Gibson.

I can see a first-place argument being made for Felix Hernandez, though it is still weak at its foundation. I cannot see such arguments being made for another AL pitchers, however. There&#039;s a clear gap between Greinke and Hernandez and the rest of the contenders (Verlander, Sabathia, etc.).&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;3858&#039;,&#039;Bill Baer&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;3858&#039;,&#039;Bill Baer&#039;,&#039;&lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-3857\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;@Craig Brown&lt;\/a&gt; - An intervention must be had if Greinke starts playing Guitar Hero. It\&#039;s only a short leap before it becomes Heroin Hero!\r\n\r\n(Obligatory South Park reference)\r\n\r\nOn Kornacki\&#039;s \&quot;stats,\&quot; Verlander had a 4.20 ERA in those four starts with 120-plus pitches, so it\&#039;s not like he became Bob Gibson.\r\n\r\nI can see a first-place argument being made for Felix Hernandez, though it is still weak at its foundation. I cannot see such arguments being made for another AL pitchers, however. There\&#039;s a clear gap between Greinke and Hernandez and the rest of the contenders (Verlander, Sabathia, etc.).&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-3857' rel="nofollow">@Craig Brown</a> &#8211; An intervention must be had if Greinke starts playing Guitar Hero. It&#8217;s only a short leap before it becomes Heroin Hero!</p>
<p>(Obligatory South Park reference)</p>
<p>On Kornacki&#8217;s &#8220;stats,&#8221; Verlander had a 4.20 ERA in those four starts with 120-plus pitches, so it&#8217;s not like he became Bob Gibson.</p>
<p>I can see a first-place argument being made for Felix Hernandez, though it is still weak at its foundation. I cannot see such arguments being made for another AL pitchers, however. There&#8217;s a clear gap between Greinke and Hernandez and the rest of the contenders (Verlander, Sabathia, etc.).
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3858','Bill Baer'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3858','Bill Baer','&lt;a href=\'#comment-3857\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;@Craig Brown&lt;\/a&gt; - An intervention must be had if Greinke starts playing Guitar Hero. It\'s only a short leap before it becomes Heroin Hero!\r\n\r\n(Obligatory South Park reference)\r\n\r\nOn Kornacki\'s \&quot;stats,\&quot; Verlander had a 4.20 ERA in those four starts with 120-plus pitches, so it\'s not like he became Bob Gibson.\r\n\r\nI can see a first-place argument being made for Felix Hernandez, though it is still weak at its foundation. I cannot see such arguments being made for another AL pitchers, however. There\'s a clear gap between Greinke and Hernandez and the rest of the contenders (Verlander, Sabathia, etc.).'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Craig Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Kornacki has gotten his name out there because of his vote, but I&#039;ll take his explanation at face value.  Things like this will happen annually until the process is changed.  And since the voters are the one&#039;s in charge of the process, I&#039;m not exactly holding my breath.

Greinke began his transformation when he pitched out of the bullpen in the minors in 2006 and in the majors for part of 2007.  It was in the relief role where he learned to &quot;harness&quot; the power of his fastball.  He&#039;s spoken of this a number of times where he was able to let loose because he knew he was only pitching an inning or so no matter what, as opposed to going deep into games as a starter.  Before his time in the pen, he was striking out about 6 batters per 9.  In the two years since, he&#039;s getting close to 9 K&#039;s per 9.

And I&#039;m not worried about Greinke playing World of Warcraft.  He could be playing Guitar Hero.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;3857&#039;,&#039;Craig Brown&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;3857&#039;,&#039;Craig Brown&#039;,&#039;I\&#039;m sure Kornacki has gotten his name out there because of his vote, but I\&#039;ll take his explanation at face value.  Things like this will happen annually until the process is changed.  And since the voters are the one\&#039;s in charge of the process, I\&#039;m not exactly holding my breath.\r\n\r\nGreinke began his transformation when he pitched out of the bullpen in the minors in 2006 and in the majors for part of 2007.  It was in the relief role where he learned to \&quot;harness\&quot; the power of his fastball.  He\&#039;s spoken of this a number of times where he was able to let loose because he knew he was only pitching an inning or so no matter what, as opposed to going deep into games as a starter.  Before his time in the pen, he was striking out about 6 batters per 9.  In the two years since, he\&#039;s getting close to 9 K\&#039;s per 9.\r\n\r\nAnd I\&#039;m not worried about Greinke playing World of Warcraft.  He could be playing Guitar Hero.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Kornacki has gotten his name out there because of his vote, but I&#8217;ll take his explanation at face value.  Things like this will happen annually until the process is changed.  And since the voters are the one&#8217;s in charge of the process, I&#8217;m not exactly holding my breath.</p>
<p>Greinke began his transformation when he pitched out of the bullpen in the minors in 2006 and in the majors for part of 2007.  It was in the relief role where he learned to &#8220;harness&#8221; the power of his fastball.  He&#8217;s spoken of this a number of times where he was able to let loose because he knew he was only pitching an inning or so no matter what, as opposed to going deep into games as a starter.  Before his time in the pen, he was striking out about 6 batters per 9.  In the two years since, he&#8217;s getting close to 9 K&#8217;s per 9.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not worried about Greinke playing World of Warcraft.  He could be playing Guitar Hero.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3857','Craig Brown'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3857','Craig Brown','I\'m sure Kornacki has gotten his name out there because of his vote, but I\'ll take his explanation at face value.  Things like this will happen annually until the process is changed.  And since the voters are the one\'s in charge of the process, I\'m not exactly holding my breath.\r\n\r\nGreinke began his transformation when he pitched out of the bullpen in the minors in 2006 and in the majors for part of 2007.  It was in the relief role where he learned to \&quot;harness\&quot; the power of his fastball.  He\'s spoken of this a number of times where he was able to let loose because he knew he was only pitching an inning or so no matter what, as opposed to going deep into games as a starter.  Before his time in the pen, he was striking out about 6 batters per 9.  In the two years since, he\'s getting close to 9 K\'s per 9.\r\n\r\nAnd I\'m not worried about Greinke playing World of Warcraft.  He could be playing Guitar Hero.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Brian Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the subject of Greinke and FIP, if it took a statistical look at his performance to get him to realize you want to strike out guys, not walk them and not give up home runs then I&#039;m a little worried about the young man... and he won&#039;t even have any free time over the winter to look at his numbers since he&#039;ll be consumed with World of Warcraft and likely to lose roughly 3.25 hours/day playing the highly addictive MMORPG.

Imagine if Milton Bradley said he was going to spend the off-season playing a video game and that he likes to look at some advanced stats because it gives him good feedback on the performance only under his control. My guess is Bradley wouldn&#039;t be cool, he&#039;d a selfish moron who doesn&#039;t make baseball a priority. Bad Milton Bradley!

Guess it&#039;s true what they say... build a bridge and no one calls you a bridge builder but s... oh nevermind!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;3856&#039;,&#039;Brian Joseph&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;3856&#039;,&#039;Brian Joseph&#039;,&#039;On the subject of Greinke and FIP, if it took a statistical look at his performance to get him to realize you want to strike out guys, not walk them and not give up home runs then I\&#039;m a little worried about the young man... and he won\&#039;t even have any free time over the winter to look at his numbers since he\&#039;ll be consumed with World of Warcraft and likely to lose roughly 3.25 hours\/day playing the highly addictive MMORPG.\r\n\r\nImagine if Milton Bradley said he was going to spend the off-season playing a video game and that he likes to look at some advanced stats because it gives him good feedback on the performance only under his control. My guess is Bradley wouldn\&#039;t be cool, he\&#039;d a selfish moron who doesn\&#039;t make baseball a priority. Bad Milton Bradley!\r\n\r\nGuess it\&#039;s true what they say... build a bridge and no one calls you a bridge builder but s... oh nevermind!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of Greinke and FIP, if it took a statistical look at his performance to get him to realize you want to strike out guys, not walk them and not give up home runs then I&#8217;m a little worried about the young man&#8230; and he won&#8217;t even have any free time over the winter to look at his numbers since he&#8217;ll be consumed with World of Warcraft and likely to lose roughly 3.25 hours/day playing the highly addictive MMORPG.</p>
<p>Imagine if Milton Bradley said he was going to spend the off-season playing a video game and that he likes to look at some advanced stats because it gives him good feedback on the performance only under his control. My guess is Bradley wouldn&#8217;t be cool, he&#8217;d a selfish moron who doesn&#8217;t make baseball a priority. Bad Milton Bradley!</p>
<p>Guess it&#8217;s true what they say&#8230; build a bridge and no one calls you a bridge builder but s&#8230; oh nevermind!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3856','Brian Joseph'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3856','Brian Joseph','On the subject of Greinke and FIP, if it took a statistical look at his performance to get him to realize you want to strike out guys, not walk them and not give up home runs then I\'m a little worried about the young man... and he won\'t even have any free time over the winter to look at his numbers since he\'ll be consumed with World of Warcraft and likely to lose roughly 3.25 hours\/day playing the highly addictive MMORPG.\r\n\r\nImagine if Milton Bradley said he was going to spend the off-season playing a video game and that he likes to look at some advanced stats because it gives him good feedback on the performance only under his control. My guess is Bradley wouldn\'t be cool, he\'d a selfish moron who doesn\'t make baseball a priority. Bad Milton Bradley!\r\n\r\nGuess it\'s true what they say... build a bridge and no one calls you a bridge builder but s... oh nevermind!'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Brian Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly think we need to quit falling for the attention whores of the BBWAA who cast knowingly controversial votes and then write a column about in a veiled attempt to gain attention.

I&#039;ll bet you that Kornacki&#039;s &quot;Verlander justification&quot; gained him more reads than anything else he wrote all year. Plus, he gains the support of homer Detroit Tiger fans who now see Kornacki as a guy who will do his best to support the local product they value.

It&#039;s a pretty safe vote when you know you don&#039;t have to worry about it swaying the &quot;election&quot; so to speak. In wrestling, they call it a &quot;cheap pop&quot; when the face comes out and yells out the home town city... this is nothing more than the BBWAA award&#039;s process of a &quot;cheap pop&quot; for Kornacki.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;3855&#039;,&#039;Brian Joseph&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;3855&#039;,&#039;Brian Joseph&#039;,&#039;I honestly think we need to quit falling for the attention whores of the BBWAA who cast knowingly controversial votes and then write a column about in a veiled attempt to gain attention.\r\n\r\nI\&#039;ll bet you that Kornacki\&#039;s \&quot;Verlander justification\&quot; gained him more reads than anything else he wrote all year. Plus, he gains the support of homer Detroit Tiger fans who now see Kornacki as a guy who will do his best to support the local product they value.\r\n\r\nIt\&#039;s a pretty safe vote when you know you don\&#039;t have to worry about it swaying the \&quot;election\&quot; so to speak. In wrestling, they call it a \&quot;cheap pop\&quot; when the face comes out and yells out the home town city... this is nothing more than the BBWAA award\&#039;s process of a \&quot;cheap pop\&quot; for Kornacki.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly think we need to quit falling for the attention whores of the BBWAA who cast knowingly controversial votes and then write a column about in a veiled attempt to gain attention.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet you that Kornacki&#8217;s &#8220;Verlander justification&#8221; gained him more reads than anything else he wrote all year. Plus, he gains the support of homer Detroit Tiger fans who now see Kornacki as a guy who will do his best to support the local product they value.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pretty safe vote when you know you don&#8217;t have to worry about it swaying the &#8220;election&#8221; so to speak. In wrestling, they call it a &#8220;cheap pop&#8221; when the face comes out and yells out the home town city&#8230; this is nothing more than the BBWAA award&#8217;s process of a &#8220;cheap pop&#8221; for Kornacki.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3855','Brian Joseph'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3855','Brian Joseph','I honestly think we need to quit falling for the attention whores of the BBWAA who cast knowingly controversial votes and then write a column about in a veiled attempt to gain attention.\r\n\r\nI\'ll bet you that Kornacki\'s \&quot;Verlander justification\&quot; gained him more reads than anything else he wrote all year. Plus, he gains the support of homer Detroit Tiger fans who now see Kornacki as a guy who will do his best to support the local product they value.\r\n\r\nIt\'s a pretty safe vote when you know you don\'t have to worry about it swaying the \&quot;election\&quot; so to speak. In wrestling, they call it a \&quot;cheap pop\&quot; when the face comes out and yells out the home town city... this is nothing more than the BBWAA award\'s process of a \&quot;cheap pop\&quot; for Kornacki.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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