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		<title>By: sregor34</title>
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		<dc:creator>sregor34</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 03:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m about 2 years late to this, but I just want to point out one thing that may or may not be relevant to the point: Josh Hamilton never once used heroin.

Obviously, there is no point in arguing with anyone about anything, but facts probably should have been checked.  Hamilton has not made a secret of any of this since coming back in &#039;05.  He&#039;s been an open book, so I know the info was out there.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;4773&#039;,&#039;sregor34&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;4773&#039;,&#039;sregor34&#039;,&#039;I know I\&#039;m about 2 years late to this, but I just want to point out one thing that may or may not be relevant to the point: Josh Hamilton never once used heroin.\r\n\r\nObviously, there is no point in arguing with anyone about anything, but facts probably should have been checked.  Hamilton has not made a secret of any of this since coming back in \&#039;05.  He\&#039;s been an open book, so I know the info was out there.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m about 2 years late to this, but I just want to point out one thing that may or may not be relevant to the point: Josh Hamilton never once used heroin.</p>
<p>Obviously, there is no point in arguing with anyone about anything, but facts probably should have been checked.  Hamilton has not made a secret of any of this since coming back in &#8216;05.  He&#8217;s been an open book, so I know the info was out there.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4773','sregor34'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4773','sregor34','I know I\'m about 2 years late to this, but I just want to point out one thing that may or may not be relevant to the point: Josh Hamilton never once used heroin.\r\n\r\nObviously, there is no point in arguing with anyone about anything, but facts probably should have been checked.  Hamilton has not made a secret of any of this since coming back in \'05.  He\'s been an open book, so I know the info was out there.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Bill Baer</title>
		<link>http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/2009/04/23/josh-hamilton-is-not-a-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-3633</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Baer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 00:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;heroin NEVER gives you any form of advantage&#8221;</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re all right with athletes harming their bodies as long as it doesn&#8217;t do anything to help them play the game better? In other words, you don&#8217;t care about the athletes as human beings; they are just semi-sentient beings who are put on the planet to entertain you.</p>
<p>&#8220;Steroids will allow the body to work out longer, harder, and develop quicker than someone who doesnâ€™t utilize the drug.&#8221;</p>
<p>This can be said about many nutritional supplements. The only difference is that they are not on the list of banned substances. It&#8217;s fine if they ban steroids, but they have to be consistent and ban protein shakes and the rest of the still-legal stuff from GNC.</p>
<p>&#8220;In fact, it makes things alot more difficult for him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t change the fact that it&#8217;s illegal. I&#8217;d much rather prefer my kids emulate A-Rod than Hamilton.</p>
<p>&#8220;Take away his minor league numbers, who cares? Those donâ€™t matter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Flawless logic here. &#8216;Use steroids? Are you a Major Leaguer? No? Who cares!&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;have his numbers restricted, or he should be banned from baseball for every year he used. &#8221;</p>
<p>A) There was no punishment for using steroids during the time period in which he has admitted to using. We can&#8217;t go back and add a punishment ex post facto. What if we illegalized eating French fries tomorrow? I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d be cool if a cop showed up at your door and arrested you.</p>
<p>B) If MLB did this, it would be cutting off its nose to spite its face.</p>
<p>&#8220;Those who are already retired should have asteriks next to their names as well and be stricken from the record books.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell you what I tell everyone who suggests this: You want the record books changed? That&#8217;s your job, then. You just signed up for this. Volunteer your time to actually removing any trace of the athletes&#8217; existence.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one example of what you&#8217;d have to do. Let&#8217;s use A-Rod&#8217;s home run tonight as an example. A-Rod hit a first-inning home run off of Jeremy Guthrie. So, what you will have to is remove the plate appearance, at-bat, hit, run, three RBI, four total bases, decrease his batting average, OBP, SLG, etc. Don&#8217;t forget to remove the plate appearance and run for the two base runners that scored. And you remove one batter faced, one hit, one home run, and three runs for Guthrie.</p>
<p>Now imagine doing that for every single event in A-Rod&#8217;s career. And then do it for all the other &#8220;cheaters&#8221; as well. You&#8217;re literally revising history. Why don&#8217;t we go back and prevent the U.S. from being colonized by British people fed up with taxes and religious persecution? Hiroshima? What&#8217;s that?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy for you to suggest that MLB take the time to do this because you know you don&#8217;t have to do it. Your tune would change if you actually considered the time and effort (and money) it would take to get this done.</p>
<p>&#8220;There needs to be examples made for others to fear the consequences.&#8221;</p>
<p>For what reason? No one ever has any solid justification for this. Why should there be consequences for using anabolic steroids, but not for getting Cortizone shots. Both are steroids, both enhance performance, both allow you to recover from the strain of athletic activity quicker. The lines between steroids and everything else are completely arbitrary and completely hypocritical.</p>
<p>We are punishing players just to punish them. We are following the pack on this one.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s because we love a good witch hunt.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3633','Bill Baer'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3633','Bill Baer','\&quot;heroin NEVER gives you any form of advantage\&quot;\r\n\r\nSo you\'re all right with athletes harming their bodies as long as it doesn\'t do anything to help them play the game better? In other words, you don\'t care about the athletes as human beings; they are just semi-sentient beings who are put on the planet to entertain you.\r\n\r\n\&quot;Steroids will allow the body to work out longer, harder, and develop quicker than someone who doesn&acirc;€™t utilize the drug.\&quot;\r\n\r\nThis can be said about many nutritional supplements. The only difference is that they are not on the list of banned substances. It\'s fine if they ban steroids, but they have to be consistent and ban protein shakes and the rest of the still-legal stuff from GNC.\r\n\r\n\&quot;In fact, it makes things alot more difficult for him.\&quot;\r\n\r\nDoesn\'t change the fact that it\'s illegal. I\'d much rather prefer my kids emulate A-Rod than Hamilton.\r\n\r\n\&quot;Take away his minor league numbers, who cares? Those don&acirc;€™t matter.\&quot;\r\n\r\nFlawless logic here. \'Use steroids? Are you a Major Leaguer? No? Who cares!\'\r\n\r\n\&quot;have his numbers restricted, or he should be banned from baseball for every year he used. \&quot;\r\n\r\nA) There was no punishment for using steroids during the time period in which he has admitted to using. We can\'t go back and add a punishment ex post facto. What if we illegalized eating French fries tomorrow? I\'m sure you\'d be cool if a cop showed up at your door and arrested you.\r\n\r\nB) If MLB did this, it would be cutting off its nose to spite its face.\r\n\r\n\&quot;Those who are already retired should have asteriks next to their names as well and be stricken from the record books.\&quot;\r\n\r\nI\'ll tell you what I tell everyone who suggests this: You want the record books changed? That\'s your job, then. You just signed up for this. Volunteer your time to actually removing any trace of the athletes\' existence.\r\n\r\nHere\'s one example of what you\'d have to do. Let\'s use A-Rod\'s home run tonight as an example. A-Rod hit a first-inning home run off of Jeremy Guthrie. So, what you will have to is remove the plate appearance, at-bat, hit, run, three RBI, four total bases, decrease his batting average, OBP, SLG, etc. Don\'t forget to remove the plate appearance and run for the two base runners that scored. And you remove one batter faced, one hit, one home run, and three runs for Guthrie.\r\n\r\nNow imagine doing that for every single event in A-Rod\'s career. And then do it for all the other \&quot;cheaters\&quot; as well. You\'re literally revising history. Why don\'t we go back and prevent the U.S. from being colonized by British people fed up with taxes and religious persecution? Hiroshima? What\'s that?\r\n\r\nIt\'s easy for you to suggest that MLB take the time to do this because you know you don\'t have to do it. Your tune would change if you actually considered the time and effort (and money) it would take to get this done.\r\n\r\n\&quot;There needs to be examples made for others to fear the consequences.\&quot;\r\n\r\nFor what reason? No one ever has any solid justification for this. Why should there be consequences for using anabolic steroids, but not for getting Cortizone shots. Both are steroids, both enhance performance, both allow you to recover from the strain of athletic activity quicker. The lines between steroids and everything else are completely arbitrary and completely hypocritical.\r\n\r\nWe are punishing players just to punish them. We are following the pack on this one.\r\n\r\nIt\'s because we love a good witch hunt.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: borschb</title>
		<link>http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/2009/04/23/josh-hamilton-is-not-a-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-3632</link>
		<dc:creator>borschb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless if Steroids break down the body eventually, heroin NEVER gives you any form of advantage.  Steroids will allow the body to work out longer, harder, and develop quicker than someone who doesn&#039;t utilize the drug.  Heroin does not do this.  Heroin users basically trip out and become useless when they use it.  There is no way heroin helped Josh with his abilities.  In fact, it makes things alot more difficult for him.
And the basic thing we are missing here is that Josh did not use heroin while playing in the MLB so his MLB numbers can&#039;t be taken away.  Take away his minor league numbers, who cares?  Those don&#039;t matter.  
Ay-Rod on the other hand should either have his numbers restricted, or he should be banned from baseball for every year he used.  As should everyone on steroids.  Those who are already retired should have asteriks next to their names as well and be stricken from the record books.  There needs to be examples made for others to fear the consequences.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;3632&#039;,&#039;borschb&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;3632&#039;,&#039;borschb&#039;,&#039;Regardless if Steroids break down the body eventually, heroin NEVER gives you any form of advantage.  Steroids will allow the body to work out longer, harder, and develop quicker than someone who doesn\&#039;t utilize the drug.  Heroin does not do this.  Heroin users basically trip out and become useless when they use it.  There is no way heroin helped Josh with his abilities.  In fact, it makes things alot more difficult for him.\r\nAnd the basic thing we are missing here is that Josh did not use heroin while playing in the MLB so his MLB numbers can\&#039;t be taken away.  Take away his minor league numbers, who cares?  Those don\&#039;t matter.  \r\nAy-Rod on the other hand should either have his numbers restricted, or he should be banned from baseball for every year he used.  As should everyone on steroids.  Those who are already retired should have asteriks next to their names as well and be stricken from the record books.  There needs to be examples made for others to fear the consequences.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless if Steroids break down the body eventually, heroin NEVER gives you any form of advantage.  Steroids will allow the body to work out longer, harder, and develop quicker than someone who doesn&#8217;t utilize the drug.  Heroin does not do this.  Heroin users basically trip out and become useless when they use it.  There is no way heroin helped Josh with his abilities.  In fact, it makes things alot more difficult for him.<br />
And the basic thing we are missing here is that Josh did not use heroin while playing in the MLB so his MLB numbers can&#8217;t be taken away.  Take away his minor league numbers, who cares?  Those don&#8217;t matter.<br />
Ay-Rod on the other hand should either have his numbers restricted, or he should be banned from baseball for every year he used.  As should everyone on steroids.  Those who are already retired should have asteriks next to their names as well and be stricken from the record books.  There needs to be examples made for others to fear the consequences.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3632','borschb'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3632','borschb','Regardless if Steroids break down the body eventually, heroin NEVER gives you any form of advantage.  Steroids will allow the body to work out longer, harder, and develop quicker than someone who doesn\'t utilize the drug.  Heroin does not do this.  Heroin users basically trip out and become useless when they use it.  There is no way heroin helped Josh with his abilities.  In fact, it makes things alot more difficult for him.\r\nAnd the basic thing we are missing here is that Josh did not use heroin while playing in the MLB so his MLB numbers can\'t be taken away.  Take away his minor league numbers, who cares?  Those don\'t matter.  \r\nAy-Rod on the other hand should either have his numbers restricted, or he should be banned from baseball for every year he used.  As should everyone on steroids.  Those who are already retired should have asteriks next to their names as well and be stricken from the record books.  There needs to be examples made for others to fear the consequences.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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